History of Detachment
This page is a recreation of our history. So far we have been able to address the time of our Charter in October 1994 to November 1996. Every effort is in progress to compile the lost information and recreate it for our History page. Thanks to Jim Graham for his reconstructuring of the history he has been able to find.
Notes from past newsletters and other sources.
Charter granted 4 October 1994 with 25 “Charter” members signing on the back. The “Charter” members were: Bill Ashley, Dave Bruneau, Jim Caldwell, Ray Chapman, Don Clayton, John Dove, Joel Engebretsen, Harry Findley, Pete Flatley, Ken Fox, Ray Franklin, Carrol French, Ron Gates, Ron Herms, Tom McKeown, Sr., Bob Mingram, Otto Reiber, Jerry Reiker, Rhonda Rose-Rieker, Terry Roth, Mark Schildknecht, Bill Terrill, Randy Wilcox, Bob ‘R. P.' Willson, Dee Yager.
By 11 November, 12 more members were added, bringing the total membership by year's end to 37. By November of the following year, the membership had increased to 46. Dues were set initially at $50 but at the August 1995 business meeting it was decided to raise the renewal fees to $30.(There was an interesting foul-up on this, when the renewal notices came out from National, they read $25 and members had to be reminded that the dues were $30.) Life Memberships were to be available starting in 1996.
The first edition of the as yet untitled Detachment newsletter was published 18 January. In the first issue, the editor requested members to contribute “items of interest to our membership.” Among the suggested titles for the newsletter were “the Message Board”, “The Word”, “Now Hear This”, “First to Fight”, “Boot News”, “Challenge & Password”. The new title, the Strait Scoop-- was one suggested by Bill Terrill--appeared on second issue 13 February.
Business Meetings were set for the fourth Tuesday of every month, with the first meeting scheduled for 24 January 1995 at the Port Angeles Veterans Center at 1900. The first of a two part 30 minute “living history” program of R.P. Willson's return to Saipan and Iwo Jima was scheduled for the last half-hour of the meeting. A third installment on the Pacific theater on the Battle for Guam was presented at the March meeting.
The first business meeting saw the inauguration of several precedent-setting initiatives: awarding honorary membership, providing subscriptions to Leatherneck magazine to each of the four public libraries in our area (PA, Sequim, Forks, and Clallam Bay). Terry Roth was the action officer for the project.
The first officers were: Bill Ashley, Commandant; Terry Roth, Senior Vice Commandant; Harry Findley, Junior Vice Commandant; Robert Mingram, Judge Advocate and Adjutant; John Dove, Paymaster; Jim Caldwell, Chaplain, and Mark Schildknecht, Sergeant At Arms. Bill Ashley also edited and published the newsletter. Being an elected officer in the early days was no snap. The Detachment Newsletter for May (Vol. 5), recorded that an “Officers Call” was to be held on the fourth Monday of every month in which a business meeting was planned at 7:00 AM(later changed to 7:30 AM, I wonder why?) at the Landings restaurant. While members were free to attend, the meeting was required of the officers!
The new detachment had its first Marine Corps birthday celebration at Haguewoods, 12 November 1995, 94 people attended, including officers from the department and other detachments. The cost was $1,703. The guest of honor was Mary Roderick, sister of Marine Medal of Honor winner, PFC Richard Anderson. Mary lent some of her brother's Marine memorabilia, including his Medal of Honor, for the occasion.
A tradition of having a bagpiper was established at that first birthday celebration with Don Alward, a navy veteran of Iwo Jima, playing. Don was made an honorary member at the first business meeting along with Mary Roderick.
The Detachment also conducted its first “Toys for Tots” drive and collected over 700 toys which were turned over to the Salvation Army (Port Angeles), The VFW (Forks), and Sequim Community Air (Sequim).
It was during the Detachment's second business meeting (28 February 1995) that we got into the business of providing security for local events. Terry Roth proposed that we enter into contracts with the Juan de Fuca Festival of the Arts and the Port Angeles Chamber of Commerce: the Detachment believed that these events were not contrary to our com munity service goals and could be handled with our available manpower resources.
Our first security detail was with the Juan de Fuca Festival May 18-20 when Don Alward, Don Clayton, Ralph Hyett, Don Kelly, Jim McPherson, Tom McKeown, Terry Roth, Mark Schildknecht, R.P. Willson, and Dee Yager stood watches to bring in $500 to the Detachment coffers.
The 4th edition of the Strait Scoop (April 1995) was enhanced by the addition of a monthly historical calendar of significant events in Marine Corps history supplied by the Melvin M. Smith Detachment of the League (Spokane).
Both individual members and the Detachment grew in visibility during that first year. Bob Mingram and Terry Roth gave presentations on patriotism at the Dry Creek elementary school the previous November and Bob was asked to speak to the elementary school children in Bremerton on 23 March, accompanied by one of his “superb” uniform displays.
Bill Terrill was one of the 28 statewide WW2 veterans honored by the Washington State Chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution at their state convention commemorative banquet 28 February 1995. His WW2 service biography was included in the DAR WW2 50th anniversary commemorative booklet.
Uniforms were an early concern for the new detachment. A red service cover was the only required uniform article, but a committee headed by R.P. Willson recommended an optional uniform for special functions consisting of a forest green single breasted blazer, khaki trousers, white shirt, and a matching green tie.
Providing service to the community was one of the principal areas the new Detachment wanted to focus on. One of their first efforts involved serving as route safety/patrol and registrars for the Port Angeles March of Dimes, 22 April 1995.
A committee of some of the WW2 Marines (Jim Caldwell, Bill Terrill, and R.P. Willson was set up to plan local 50th anniversary commemorative and to recognize “significant 1945 Marine Corps battles. The 50th anniversary of the landing at Iwo Jima was the first ceremony the committee proposed to recognize.
The commemorative ceremony was held at the end of the Port Angeles City Pier, Sunday, February, 19, at 9:30 AM. The ceremony included memories of Iwo Jima by R.P. Willson, Bill Terrill, and Don Alward. A wreath-laying ceremony with honors was provided by the Marines from the Marine Security Force Company, Bangor. Honors included a 21 gun salute and taps and was followed by a coffee and pastry reception in the Landing Mall. Local dignitaries from the county, Port Angeles, Forks, and Sequim were invited. A no-host brunch for members and the Bangor honor guard followed the reception. Approximately 90 people attended, including five former Iwo Jima combatants. Northland Cable, KONP radio, and the Peninsula Daily News covered the event. Lincoln Street Safeway provided the flowers, Mrs. Terrill provided the wreath. Bob Mingram, Terry Roth, Jim Caldwell, Bill Terrill, and R.P. Willson were the main movers in this operation.
The next 50th anniversary commemorative ceremony was a remembrance of the Battle of Okinawa, on 1 April at noon on Sunday, April 1st at the Port Angeles Vet Center. The ceremony and the reception were open to the public, with local dignitaries and the press invited. Members were asked to help publicize the event by posting printed announcements at their places of business, churches, or other conspicuous locations. The Detachment had zero budget for advertising and relied on word of mouth and the generous support of the local media. Members were also asked to contributed finger foods or beverages for the reception and Ann Ashley and Ellen Caldwell agreed to co-chair the refreshment committee. Over 100 people attended the event, including 19 survivors of the campaign. Excellent coverage was provided by Northland Cable (Channel 3). Thanks to R.P. Willson and Ray Monroe we have two documentaries of the event.
As a post script to the event, on the Tuesday following the remembrance ceremony, the Detachment Officers and the WW2 commemorative committee attended a no host breakfast at Traylors with the Okinawa campaign survivors. A package containing a bag of Okinawa sand sent by the 3rd Marine Division Chaplain, Capt. W.B. Wilson, USN was ceremoniously opened by Chuck Meacham (3rd Raider Bn.) using a service K-Bar. Small glass vials were provided for survivors to fill with Okinawa sand to take home. Each campaign survivor received a personal letter of authenticity and gratitude on our detachment letterhead. Bob Mingram had a major role in developing an exhibit “1945--The Year to Remember” for the Clallam County Museum.
On May 7. 1995, Detachment members participated in the 50th anniversary commemorative service of V-E Day held at the First United and Congregational Church of Port Angeles. This was an interfaith service recognizing the sacrifice of veterans and civilians alike during the war in Europe. The Detachment provided usher support and participated with other Veterans' organizations in a wreath laying ceremony. Pete Flatley, as the participating Catholic Lay Leader, gave a stirring tribute to those who sacrificed so much. The Navy Mothers Club hosted the reception following the service.
On May 20, the newly formed Detachment participated in the Veterans Memorial Monument dedication ceremony at Veterans Park in Port Angeles. The monument, six years in the making, honors Clallam County servicemen who died in the Koran and Vietnam wars. Our Detachment contributed $50 toward the $1000 cost of the monument and agreed to provide another $50 in the following year to bring our contribution in line with the donations provided by other local Veteran organization. R.P Willson and Bob Mingram of our Detachment conducted the wreath laying ceremony. We also participated in the Memorial Day ceremony at the Port Angeles Veterans Center, May 29, sponsored by the American Legion, Don Alward piped.
One of the more interesting events occurred in July when a group of 24 members, family and friends toured the USS Missouri in Bremerton and inducted the late Dean Randles on the same spot where the surrender was signed with Don Alward piping for the occasion. Following the induction ceremony, the group attended the first evening parade of the season at Bangor where Lt. Col. Alan Anderson relieved Major Scott Graham as commanding officer of the Marine Corps Security Force Company.
Several other parade traditions were established that summer. First, we participated in the the 100th Sequim Irrigation Festival Parade on 11 May 1995, thanks to the work of Pete Leonard and Harry Findley. Bill Terrill drove his red “Model A” replica with 83 year old George Bain, who served in China 1932-37, dressed in his Dress Blue “Bravo” uniform in the rumble seat. The “staff car” had been decorated by Bob Mingram and Bill Terrill with Marine Corps and Marine Corps League decorations. Bob Marvelle and Don Clayton , along with three Civil Air Patrol cadets wearing Marine uniforms that spanned the last century. R.P. Willson and Bob Mingram carried the Detachment banner.
Then the Detachment went to the Forks July 4th parade where we were joined by Mayor Phil Arbeiter (K/3/9) and Willy Umbanhower (2/5). Bill Ashley's 7 year old daughter launched penny candies into the crowd before running out of her allotment halfway through the parade.
Joyce Daze parade 5 August completed our parade schedule for that first summer with Bill Ashley, Don Clayton, Jim Caldwell, Harry Findley, Bob Mingram, Dean Randles, Rhonda Rose-Rieker, Maggie Roth, Bob Staunton, Bill Terrill, and R.P. Willson in attendance. They were joined by China Marine George Bain of Sequim, Dennis Tucker of Joyce, and Floyd Bryson, who was sworn in later that month. Eight Young Marines and their advisors from Snohomish County who, incidentally, captured a Second Place ribbon in the Veterans Organization division. Following the parade, Harry and Mary Findley opened their home for a a festive barbecue potluck with Harry manning the grill.
Just before the Joyce parade, we were pleased to hear that Doug French, Charter member Carroll French's son, a junior in Sequim High School and a member of the Devil Pups, was the only candidate from Western Washington chosen to attend the Devil Pups Leadership Camp, held at MCP Camp Pendleton. He was also among the 11 Devil Pups chosen to attend the Graduation Dinner with the Commanding General of MCP Camp Pendleton and other distinguished guests.
Planning for 50th anniversary commemorative events for V-J day which had begun as early as May, came to fruition on Sept. 2, when more than 100 Clallam County veterans participated. Veterans organizations and veterans from every conflict including World War I and the Gulf War marched from the County Courthouse to the Veterans Center. At the head of the parade was Marine Dan Kelly at the wheel of a Sheriff's department all-terrain vehicle, followed by Don Alward playing martial music on his bagpipes. Bob Mingram led his “parade reinforced squad”. Dean Randles drove his ‘55 T-bird and R.P. Willson drove Bill Terrill's Model A replica. Both vehicles carried former Marines and several Pearl Harbor survivors. Floyd Bryson carried the Corps' colors, the main parade banner was carried by Pete Flatley and a former Vietnam service Marine friend of his.
Following the parade, the picnic/barbecue attracted over 240 participants (“we're confident in that number because that was how many plates we had and we ran out!”). Detachment members had been asked to bring a dish-salad. casserole, or desert-and responded nobly. Grill masters were Harry Findley and Dee Yager. Lou Ann Yager and Ann Ashley augmented the volunteer kitchen force from the VFW auxiliary. Northland Cable (Channel 3) and the Peninsula Daily News were present at the picnic and spent several hours interviewing WW2 veterans who were there. Proclamations honoring the significance of the day and the men and women who sacrificed so much 50 years ago were passed by Clallum County Commissioners, Forks, Sequim, and Port Angeles and are to be preserved permanently at the Veterans Center.
As if there was not enough excitement in the first year of our Detachment, the Department of Washington, Marine Corps League decided to hold its quarterly meeting in Port Angeles on 7 October. National and Department Officers were present as were representative from most of the detachments throughout the region. Mayor Joan Sargent started the morning by welcoming our special visitors. Detachments gave reports on their recent activities and achievements. Department Commandant Bailey Reynolds gave a report on the National Convention. Citations and awards were given to Washington state detachments and to individual members. Our detachment suggested the creation of a “starter kit” for future detachments--a kind of “how to” document that would assist new detachments in their early stage of development. Commandant Reynolds appointed a committee to develop the proposed starter kit.
The Detachment's first year closed, appropriately enough, with the celebration of the Marine Corps Birthday on Saturday 11 November (Veterans Day) at the Naval Elks Lodge in Port Angeles. Bob Mingram was the chair of the celebration committee and the cost per person for a sit-down dinner was set at $25. Earlier the Port angeles Coast Guard Air Station hosted a tribute to veterans beginning at 10:00 AM at the main aircraft hanger and our Detachment received a personal invitation to witness the ceremonies.
Parades, ceremonies, community service marked the first year in the life of the Mt. Olympus Detachment. We helped our own when the need arose as in the case of Don Clayton's hospitalization when Joel Engelbritsen and Mark Schildknecht provided “immediate and superior support” to the Clayton family. Our willingness to assist as well as offering concern and prayers for Jim Caldwell during his continuing bout with cancer---
The new officers nominated by the nomination committee formed in September (Chair: Dee Yager; committee members: Rhonda Rose-Rieker and R.P, Willson) proposed the following slate of officers at the business meeting of 24 October: Commandant, Terry Roth; Rhonda Rose-Rieker, Senior Vice Commandant; Dee Yager, Junior Vice Commandant; Judge Advocate, Robert Mingram; Sergeant at Arms, Bill Terrill; Adjutant, Robert Mingram; Paymaster, Jerry Rieker; Chaplain, R.P. Willson.
Mt. Olympus Detachment History 1996
The Feb. ‘96, vol. 2, issue 1, Commandant's message noted that there were 17 items on the agenda which made for an “interesting” evening, but they still finished by 2100!
MCL received 1280 toys in PA, good number donated in Sequim & Forks. Thanks to Floyd Bryson and Tom Allen. Thanked Harry Findley for coordinating w/the Prison on the handmade wooden pull-toys. Good publicity from Northland Cable News.
Voted & approved starting our scholarship program this year with one $250 scholarship. Rhonda is chairperson. Hope to review candidates from PA, Sequim, Forks, & Crescent. In process of deciding on criteria.
Notes that January meeting approved optional uniforms which can be worn in parades, memorial services where we want to stand out as “Marines”. Uniform to consist of dress blue trousers, white short sleeve shirt w/ epaulets, black oxford shoes, khaki belt, & MCL cover.
April ‘96, vol. 2, issue 2 (has ads from Rose Lumber, John Scott Real Estate (Carroll French), Corps shop, PostNet.
Caldwell Memorial Scholarship to be awarded to a student beginning their first year at Peninsula College. Will look at scholarship notebooks from graduating seniors. Will advertise locally for adults who may be returning to school at Peninsula. Will give preference to a military veterans dependents, but it will not be mandatory. Applications available by 1 April. Ellen Caldwell & family to review applicants. They will give the committee their top three choices but committee will make the final selection.
Den 4, Pack 447, from Hamilton Elementary school along w/Den Leader Chris Fernandes, attended opening of League meeting w/cub scouts Michael Fernandes, Matthew Shore, & Chris Rife. Along with Tammy Shore, mother of Matthew. Scouts presented detachment w/a lg. card of thanks to Vets of World War II.
Marine James Graham was initiated at Feb. 27. Balloting on Marines Robert Holmes, Kenneth Brown, & Larry Baysinger to be at March meeting. Initiation of new members at April meeting.
Rummage sale announced for Sat, April 20 at Vet Center, 9 to 3.
Remembering Okinawa wreath laying ceremony at Vets Park, April 1 at 9 AM. Rep. Jim Buck & Desert Storm Vet Kathy Roy will lay the wreath. Coffee to follow at the Vet Center.
Once again MCL will help w/March of Dimes registration in Sequim & PA.
This issue printed a detachment roster of 43 members ( including 3 honorary members: Walter Fitzpatrick, Don Alward, Mary Roderick).
May ‘96, vol. 2, issue 3 (issue & probably previous issues edited by Rhonda & Jerry)
The Commandant's Message noted that because the DAR, who would normally be the coordinating unit for the Veterans' Day celebration, declined because “they didn't have enough active members to do the job properly”, the Mt. Olympus Detachment would be coordinati ng the event at the Coast Guard Station in November 1966.
The Exchange Club of Port Angeles would sponsor the Fourth of July Honors at the Veteran's Park/Liberty Bell.
Ten Detachment members had committed to purchase M-1 rifles to be used in detachment ceremonies. These rifles would be in working order and would be the property of the detachment. Noted that Jerry Rieker, Rhonda Rose-Rieker, Ken Allen, Don Alward, Bill Terrill, and R.P. Willson had already paid $100 each to sponsor one of the M-1 rifles for the detachment. The sponsoring Marine will have his or her name engraved on the stock of the weapon.
Vol. 2, issue 3 was four full pages (no adds on back as had been the case with issue 2) also carried a Membership dues reminder for the $30 dues. Also carried a note from the paymaster that” annual dues payments or any ‘other' financial transactions” of the detachment had to be made to the Detachment Paymaster.
Announced that in forthcoming Newsletters, like to do a “Front-line Feature” story on a Mt. Olympus Marine, “This can be very interesting and informative to our membership. Who knows reminiscing about “old buddies”, different units, careers, times, and places (no sea stories please)This will only work if everyone participates. Just write a page or so on Why you became a Marine?, the time frame you were in; what your MOS was with a brief description. Any battles or campaigns you fought in. What was it like to be a Marine at a certain time or place; Any special citations or awards bestowed upon you; Good times and/or bad times. Just about anything you can think of. Let your mind wander.”
Rummage sale held 27 April at Vet Center brought in $417. Thanks to Bill Terrill, R.P. Willson, Ray Chapman, Harry Findley, Don Alward, Don Clayton, Mark Schildknecht, Rhonda Rose-Rieker, Jerry Rieker, Bob Holmes, Tom McKeown. Had voted & approved a decision at last meeting (April?) that 20% of proceeds go towards scholarships. Jerry Rieker deposited $333.60 into checking & $83.40 into savings for scholarships.
Congratulations to new recruits: Bob Holmes USMC 1964-68,
Marshall Salvaggio (1942-1968). Published Juan de Fuca guard roster for 17 May, return will be $200: Jerry, Rhonda, Dee Yager, Bob Holmes, Walt Fitzpatrick, Don Alward, Tom McKeown: 18 May R.P., Jim Graham, Findley, Chapman, Terrill, Mingram, Terry Roth.
Ronnie Hilgrean, no. 1 candidate on both Committee's & Caldwell's lists, to be awarded at the Scholarship assembly 21 May High School auditorium.
June ‘96, vol. 2, issue 3[sic] (obvious error in issue numbering -- should be vol. 2, issue 4)
Noted that the June meeting would discuss detachment goals and some upcoming events. Thanks Tom McKeown & Tom Allen for participation in March of Dimes “Walk America”.
Received a letter of thanks from Caldwell scholarship winner, Ronnie Hillgren.
Thanks Dee Yager, Rhonda Rose-Rieker, Walt Fitzpatrick, Tom McKeown, Ray Chapman, Jerry Rieker, Robert Holmes, Don Alward, Harry Findley, Robert Mingram for Juan De Fuca security duty, May 17 & 18 for which the detachment received $200. (Jim Graham's name omitted but recognized in the next issue).
Announced in a special box, the evening parades at Bangor on 26 July (NCO parade) and a Centennial celebration) at 1845 and urged our Marines and “enjoy these events”.
Carried R.P. Willson's “A Marine's Moment in the Combat Zone” as the first “‘Front-line Feature'” (Up close and personal)”
September ‘96, vol. 2, issue 4 (no record of any issues published in July or August in this file)
Rhonda calls for people to serve on Ball committee, bringing their ideas to make it “a fun, exciting and profitable evening”. Ball is set for 9 Nov. at Naval Elks Lodge. Publishes letter from Supt. of Schools thank ing them for Caldwell scholarship.
Publishes exerpts from the Navy Times, Marine Corps Edition, on the new boot camp with its focus on developing teamwork while applying their new military skills.
“Front-line Feature” published a piece by Tom McKeown, entitled “Just Reminiscing” Another notice from Jerry Rieker, reminding members to go through him for dues & any other monetary transaction. Rhonda & Jerry give notice that they need someone else to take over the responsibility of publishing the newsletter. They will publish one more newsletter and assist in the transition. Nomination time for officers to open at the September meeting with elections at the October meeting.
Bill Terrill gave a report on the graveside service of Walter W. Schmidt. Don Alward played “Amazing Grace,” R.P. and Bill handled the colors. VFW handled the firing squad and taps.
Arts in Act ion added $150 to the account.
November ‘96, vol. 2, issue 6
Announces 26 Nov. meeting, installation of 1997 officers w/ an officers call at 5 pm at the Landing restaurant.
Xmas social to be held 20 Dec from 6 to 9 at Naval Elks Lodge in the Butler Lounge. Potluck dinner, members to be called prior to the event. Admission a toy. Evening to be a celebration of our accomplishments and the ending of the Toys for Tots campaign.
Toys for Tots [uses graphic of a Teddy Bear]: Don Clayton, chair; Floyd and Bob have Forks; Rhonda, Jerry, and Mingram have PA going, Jack Fuller is getting Port Townsend started. Sequim Community aid has Sequim “under control”. Official kickoff is Nov. 29, boxes to be available at Det meeting or call Rhonda. Thanks Tom McKeown and Don Alward, McKeown's students, & all other Marines & community members “who will brighten a child's Christmas”.
221st Marine Corps ball held at grand ballroom of Naval Elks uses a shadow-graphic of male & female Marines(hard to distinguish). Pacific Wine & Grill catered a dinner of Baron of Beef or Chicken Dijon. Dave Bruneau was MC. Bill Terrill & R.P. Willson were guest speakers. All branches of the service were recognized. Ellen Caldwell (her daughter, Kim Chaney), Sgt. Major Siverson & wife, MCL Washington Department Commandant Wayne Dale & wife attended. Thanks Siverson for bringing the Commandant's message.
Tom McKeown given “Marine of the Year” award for work with the bicycle program. Accepted by Tom McKeown, Jr. and daughter Cathleen who got an appreciation award of her own. Det raised $500 on silent auction items. Thanks those who contributed [no list]. Thanks Ann Ashley & Janet Flatley for their work on decorations & setup. Also thanks Chris Bruneau, Bill Ashley, Laura & Ryan Ashley, Pete Flatley, Lindsay & Ryan Rieker, and Kris Barto for their help setting up.
Veteran's Day celebration [uses U.S. flag graphic] at CG station was a “huge success”. Hanger packed to capacity. Awed by Bangor Marines silent drill team, Strait Men's chorus sang patriotic songs. MOH recipient Col. USAF, James R. Fleming spoke on “how Veterans need to look out for other Veterans. Bangor Marine band played each service's anthem--”an inspirational, thankful, patriotic ceremony”.
Survivors of Wake, Guam, and Cavite held a convention in PA 8-15 Sept. Been holding conventions for the last 51 yrs., said “this was their best convention ever”. Mt. Olympus Det gave each survivor & spouse (total of 96) a pin of crossed U.S. & Marine flags. Terry Roth, Don Alward, R.P. Willson, Bob Mingram & Bill Terrill worked hard to get good media coverage. Wake Island committee paid for the banner space “Welcome Wake Island Survivors + date” over 1st St. and Ming painted it w/the Marine Corps emblem. Don piped the colors & the Marine hymn. Bill & R.P. picked up people from the airport & took them to their hotel. Terry Roth helped arrange for T.V. & “guided us in organizing lining up the banner”. Attended an evening banquet. Reprints a letter of thanks from PDN from an 81 yr. old survivor. Back page consisted of “A Veteran is . . . .” contributed by Dee Yager.
MORE TO COME....................................